Check wayback:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.team8plus.org

Then nothing. Then in November, the site suddenly prominently displays links to Nico Haupt, but little new material is posted. Ewing2001 becomes ‘Nico Haupt aka Ewing2001′

To me, it’s pretty obvious what happened: the site got hacked and was handed over to, or used to promote, Nico Haupt.

This achieved two things: it handed Haupt Ewing2001′s well-earned credibility. Second, it discredited the excellent work of Team 8+ by association with Nico Haupt.

My only question is: what happened to the real Ewing2001? Why wasn’t he screaming blue bloody murder that his site was hacked and his identity stolen?

Pretty sinister.

Loughrey was a clear and experienced writer who contributed to the Baltimore Chronicle regularly and understood well the ways of media deception. Loughrey was a good spokesman for his ideas. When people encounter the no-planes theory, they should be introduced via Loughrey’s writing, the original and best. Most writing in the six or seven years since has simply mudied the water.

I have one question:

Where is Scott Loughrey?

Team 8+

I think ‘Team 8+’ is a reference to ‘Team 8′, a government investigatory team charged with looking into the response to the disasters.

The ‘outer’ conspiracy was to stage a false-flag attack on the Pentagon intended to provide a pretext for war in Afghanistan. Such an attack would involve few or no casualties, as no actual crash was to occur. Two real United Airlines jets were to be commandeered, but these were to be landed at mixed used civilian / military airstrips in the Midwest, with Arab terrorists to take the blame. I have proposed elsewhere that such an operation could have been the work of a military PSYOP team. Again, while deception would have been intended, no large scale domestic loss of life would have been planned.

Unfortunately for these conspirators, they were to discover that they had been out-conspired. The purpose of the ‘outer’ conspiracy was simply to provide military cover for an inner conspiracy to destroy the twin towers in down-town Manhattan. The plan here was in some ways simpler – no flights were to be commandeered, but rather the attacks would be blamed on a pair of flights which never existed.

If only two of the flights actually existed, this would account for the fact that only two of the 9/11 flights ever existed in the BTS database. I am aware that in fact the South Tower was supposed to be struck by a United Airlines jet, but this may simply be an example of the inner conspiracy high-jacking an element of the outer conspiracy’s scenario. Having said that, back in 2003, Scott Loughrey noted that UA175 looked suspiciously silver in his Was 911 a Video Movie?

Curious minds also wonder why UA 175 is silver. After all, United Airlines has a grey and dark blue fleet. The silvery plane looks more like the planes flown by American Airlines.

A good observation! This would be consistent with a planned timeline having American Airlines jets striking the towers, with the pre-prepared footage depicting this.

Presumably, delays caused the scenario to be scrambled. If I correctly remember, there was a great deal of confusion on the day on what had supposedly struck where. Again, this would be consistent with a change in the officially promulgated scenario.

My gut feel is that the ‘outer’ conspiracy was known to the ‘nationalist’ elements of the United States establishment, and certain loyal elements of the military.

The inner conspiracy by contrast was controlled by ‘internationalist’ elements having great power over finance and the media. The outer conspiracy was of course known to the inner conspiracy, who may in fact have initiated it. Its purpose was to implicate patriotic, nationalist elements of the establishment in the false-flag operation. I suspect the military would not have tolerated an attack of the scale seen on 9/11 and would have risen against its perpetrators, domestic or otherwise, had they not been compromised by their involvement in the Pentagon attack. They were effectively double-crossed. It would have been very difficult to expose the attack on Manhattan while excusing their own deception in the Pentagon attack. In this way, various different, even antagonistic, elements of the U.S. establishment were bound together in silence in the wake of the attack.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=25146

I don’t endorse the particular detailed mechanism put forward here. But the basic idea is a good one.

Killtown is not in a position to know whether Jo Cressy’s action are a result of a government conspiracy. Jo Cressy could be party to a government conspiracy. Or Jo Cressy could have been provided with information by a third-party on the condition that the information be used in this way.

If any of the material published on 911movement.org was accurate then that material was highly dangerous to the authority of the United States government. If one takes seriously the material published on 911movement.org one must take seriously the possibility that the government of the United States will wish to suppress or discredit that material. When they act, they will wish to conceal their actions. They will create cover stories. They will seek to attribute their actions to others.

UPDATE: The logic of this story is that planes were not hijacked, but that plane was flown into the Pentagon. It makes no sense. It is a fake. The purpose of this fake is to put forward the idea that the crash occurred. The purpose of the ‘no door’ error is to cause 9/11 skeptics to embrace this fake.

Established as the 114th Tactical Control Flight (TCF) in May 1982, it received its present day mission in October 1985 as the 114th Air Traffic Control Flight. Effective 17 May 1997, the unit was re-designated the 258th Air Traffic Control Squadron. The following September, the 258th relocated from State College PA to Johnstown PA. Recently, the unit changed realignment from the 193rd SOW in Harrisburg to the 171st ARW at Pittsburgh.

http://www.papitt.ang.af.mil/258external/258home.htm

This is significant because the 193d Special Operations Wing is a special operations wing dedicated to broadcasting television propaganda for the U.S. military.

My interpretation of this information is that United States psychological operations teams were responsible for the events of 9/11. I propose that psychological operation teams would have the ability to create false broadcasts of aircraft hitting the World Trade Center. The presence of the 258th Johnstown-Cambria indicates they also had the ability to land large aircraft, and I suggest that is what happened on 9/11. I suggest that one or more of the hijacked aircraft were landed at Johnstown-Cambria. I also suggest that the crash at Shanksville was created as a distraction from events at Johnstown-Cambria, and as cover for the military activity at the airport that day.

Did Johnstown tower have any radio contact with a large aircraft about 20 miles to its south? Supervisor Dennis Fritz and controller Thomas Hull picked up binoculars — the tower has no radar — and scanned the horizon to the south. The day was clear and, from the highest point in the area, they could spot radio towers in neighboring Somerset County. A large plane would have stood out.

…

Ninety seconds later, Cleveland called back. The plane was now 15 miles south and heading directly for the Johnstown tower.

“We suggest you evacuate,” they told him.

Fritz ordered trainees and custodial staff out of the 85-foot tower. He and Hull stayed at their posts and scanned the south with binoculars. It occurred to Fritz that the plane must be flying below the level of the mountain ridges around them.

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011028flt93mainstoryp7.asp

This makes no sense. As other posters have noted, evacuating the tower seems an odd thing to do. Why was the tower considered to be a target? However, if the purpose was to get all civilian employees off the scene, it would make perfect sense.

Fritz was supervisor at the Johnstown-Cambria that day. Fritz is a member of the 258th Air Traffic Control Squadron. This was demonstrated by a now-disappeared blog post comment at http://dnpc.blogspot.com/2005/12/starting-our-journey.html

DE
Dennis Fritz, GS-13
Air Traffic Manager
258th ATCS
(DSN) 455-5981
814-532-5981
C 814-241-5061

Note that officially, one airline did land at Johnstown-Cambria, but was apparently a 727.

But as he spoke, one of the few planes in the skies over America, a United Airlines 727 arrived carrying what McKelvey said was equipment for the recovery, and a half dozen rental trucks pulled into the airport to carry the equipment to the crash scene.

“This is the one airport [in the region] that can handle about any aircraft in the world,” McKelvey said. Normally, the Johnstown airport handles five commercial passenger flights a day.

Last night police and National Guard sealed off the airport to regular traffic, at one point shutting down state Route 219 a four-lane highway that is only 500 yards from airport property. It was later reopened, but access roads to the airport remained sealed.

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
(From Post-Gazette Newspaper, Day of Terror: Outside tiny Shanksville, a fourth deadly stroke, Wednesday, September 12, 2001, written by staff writer Jonathan D. Silver,)

Now what this indicates, I’m not sure. I’m inclined to think the 727 story is a cover for the landing of one of the hijacked planes. I’d like to know more about this 727.

Sergeant James Koshute, who hosted a meeting of the Cambria County Local Emergency Planning Committee on 9/10, at Johnstown-Cambria, was a member of the 258th, which was attached to the 193rd, which is a PSYOP force.

The 3rd quarter meeting of the Cambria County Local Emergency Planning Committee was conducted on September 10th in the air traffic control tower at the John Murtha Johnstown Cambria County Airport in Richland Township. Sergeant James Koshute of the 258 Air Traffic Control Squadron from the Pennsylvania Air National Guard served as the host. In addition to Sergeant Koshute, other LEPC members in attendance were Michael Hoover, Ron Springer, Ralph Saylor, Bernie McCreadie, June Kania, Mike Huss, Vikki King, Georgia Lehman and Leah Spangler.

http://www.co.cambria.pa.us/cambria/cwp/view.asp?A=1213&Q=499509&tx=1

Again, this appears to be an attempt to get all the first responders who might see what was happening together in one room, find out about them, get their views on the terrorism threat, and maybe mould them a little, and to try to gain their trust.

Finally, for an anonymous quote from 17/11 on the Free Republic forum:

An employee of a very lofty quasi-federal entity told me last Friday that he thought Cheney was running everything. There is a possibility that an airliner carrying Bush landed at Johnstown, Pennsylvania airport, and that quasi-federal employee said that was very likely. At between 4:00-4:30PM on the day of the attacks, an airliner appeared in front of the Comfort Inn on a mountain to the east of Johnstown, and about 2 miles from the airport. The liner was descending to land, and leaving a black trail behind it indicative of dumping fuel. It was a few hundred feet off the ground and level as it disappeared behind the ridge separating us from the airport. Police had closed off the airport earlier that afternoon, and the quasi-federal employee reported about helicopter gunships circling the airport. Johnstown is helicopter distance from Washington, DC.

Now this is hearsay, but it’s rather suggestive hearsay. If airliners were being landed in secret at Johnstown-Cambria, road closures and helicopter gunships circling in secret would seem entirely appropriate.

I have posted some of this material already, but I wanted to get it all together with links and quotes, in case anything starts disappearing from the web.